tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post638913784354181177..comments2024-03-22T22:33:42.207-04:00Comments on Everyday Debate: LD Jan/Feb 2014 - Environment vs Resources - Aff ValuesJames Kellamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-32682621223628340632014-01-21T00:14:57.191-05:002014-01-21T00:14:57.191-05:00How do you feel about using eco-centrism as the va...How do you feel about using eco-centrism as the value and defining it as "a point of view that recognizes the ecosphere, rather than the biosphere, as central in importance, and attempts to redress the imbalance created by anthropocentrism." I found this definition, and it seems to go well with the criterion of rejecting anthropocentrism. Do you think that value/value criterion combination will be good?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-83478486078279351672014-01-06T22:15:56.720-05:002014-01-06T22:15:56.720-05:00Honestly, it depends on your definitions. Based on...Honestly, it depends on your definitions. Based on your framework, the value of morality (perhaps doing the right thing) is upheld by maximizing societal welfare which is typically a government obligation. Therefore, by extension, you are defining moral action by an institutional actor. This is why I think definitions are important. A value of government legitimacy works with your criterion.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-10561523269565501302014-01-06T19:56:30.041-05:002014-01-06T19:56:30.041-05:00What do you think of a value of morality and maxim...What do you think of a value of morality and maximizing societal welfare as my value criterion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-88493464700010087342014-01-06T17:23:54.156-05:002014-01-06T17:23:54.156-05:00Consequentialism seems a little broad to me but I ...Consequentialism seems a little broad to me but I think governments or societal structures do well to serve the greatest majority (while protecting minority rights). So this is consequentialist. I think the idea of rights of environment would fit this framework if the environment is a more or less equal member of society.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-64875737429247780672014-01-06T10:41:04.127-05:002014-01-06T10:41:04.127-05:00If I were to use societal welfare as my value and ...If I were to use societal welfare as my value and consequentialism for my criteria, do you think that I could include arguments about environmental ownership and the rights of the environment in my argument along with how human life would be impacted? MBordleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11885277133447766544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-16557228817107417092014-01-03T15:32:42.668-05:002014-01-03T15:32:42.668-05:00You can use life as a value, but I have no idea ho...You can use life as a value, but I have no idea how to use "mother nature" as a criterion.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-52333098154939237492014-01-03T14:32:44.143-05:002014-01-03T14:32:44.143-05:00do you think i could use mother nature as my value...do you think i could use mother nature as my value criterion and life as my value? They are what we are trying to protect? any ideas on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-74240197889023459692013-12-30T13:18:44.777-05:002013-12-30T13:18:44.777-05:00I think it is very workable. I think util definit...I think it is very workable. I think util definitely works as long as one is very explicit about util as a governmental criterion for decision making. It has nothing to do with util as a criterion for moral decision making on an individual level.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-50983683325011753032013-12-29T14:36:52.170-05:002013-12-29T14:36:52.170-05:00How does societal welfare sound as a value? Along ...How does societal welfare sound as a value? Along with utilitarianism as the criterionAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00683023321488702620noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-5797742879696723472013-12-27T12:38:54.943-05:002013-12-27T12:38:54.943-05:00I do not think human dignity is squirrely but I al...I do not think human dignity is squirrely but I also do not think it is a uniquely Affirmative value. Surely Neg can claim it potentially preserves or enhances human dignity. Go back and read the Hume excerpt in the <a href="http://everydaydebate.blogspot.com/2013/12/ld-janfeb-2014-environnment-vs.html" rel="nofollow">Neg Position</a> post and you will see a great deal of human dignity being restored to people as a result of resource extraction.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-26771368107254197012013-12-25T02:16:36.356-05:002013-12-25T02:16:36.356-05:00How would you feel about human dignity as an aff v...How would you feel about human dignity as an aff value? Would that be too squirrely? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15046646365941447789noreply@blogger.com