tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post849736643231047490..comments2024-03-22T22:33:42.207-04:00Comments on Everyday Debate: LD Nov/Dec 2015 - Jury Nullification - Affirmative PositionJames Kellamshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-46786535287131649852015-12-04T18:11:13.152-05:002015-12-04T18:11:13.152-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-53161776757723552742015-12-03T21:34:57.113-05:002015-12-03T21:34:57.113-05:00I am a potato.I am a potato.olojames25https://www.blogger.com/profile/04194732458163531388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-13962518313654622882015-12-03T21:34:27.389-05:002015-12-03T21:34:27.389-05:00potato
potato<br />olojames25https://www.blogger.com/profile/04194732458163531388noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-4097501356388192022015-12-03T19:06:23.752-05:002015-12-03T19:06:23.752-05:00how good is util and how would I run ithow good is util and how would I run itAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07713793866001883765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-49792369613240265752015-11-29T10:51:36.192-05:002015-11-29T10:51:36.192-05:00I am not sure I can properly answer that question....I am not sure I can properly answer that question. I am not well versed with S.E. other than a cursory knowledge of Fletcher's formulation. It is a broad concept and very much like running utilitarianism. For this reason I think many of the standard arguments against util may apply. If Neg should give examples of how jury nullification resulted in discrimination or unjust consequences, I am not sure how S.E. can respond. This is just my opinion based upon limit knowledge of S.E.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-55223728976134556402015-11-27T23:12:32.678-05:002015-11-27T23:12:32.678-05:00c
eghhgjhhhkc<br />eghhgjhhhkAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-71191950558724914722015-11-25T15:34:43.951-05:002015-11-25T15:34:43.951-05:00Do you think justice as a value and situational et...Do you think justice as a value and situational ethics as a criterion could work for aff?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-69978022716775827122015-11-24T10:41:23.748-05:002015-11-24T10:41:23.748-05:00I don't know the best way, but I can tell you ...I don't know the best way, but I can tell you how I've seen it. On the Aff very often social contract is applied as a standard (but can be other VCs as well). If the government is about to unjustifiably violate an individual's rights it loses legitimacy and so the jury has a 'right' (under Lockean soc. con.) to rebel from the government. It is also argued that unjust laws de-legitimize the government. On the Neg when the rule of law is upheld, government legitimacy is upheld. See the Crispo et al, '97 evidence which says the law must be consistent in application and not shaded by individual standards.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-23785380158789694652015-11-23T16:54:50.438-05:002015-11-23T16:54:50.438-05:00What is the best way to run government legitimacy ...What is the best way to run government legitimacy on both sides???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-66346192858503326432015-11-13T11:18:52.685-05:002015-11-13T11:18:52.685-05:00b
dfggfigggjb<br />dfggfigggjAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-89582189762710809562015-11-13T09:45:54.804-05:002015-11-13T09:45:54.804-05:00Have a look at the Neg Position section called ...Have a look at the <a href="http://everydaydebate.blogspot.com/2015/10/ld-novdec-2015-jury-nullification_21.html" rel="nofollow">Neg Position</a> section called 'The Negative Values'.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-54265441666466431872015-11-12T20:26:09.625-05:002015-11-12T20:26:09.625-05:00what is a good v\vc pair for neg? what is a good v\vc pair for neg? Nick Petersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-14521810922252751342015-11-12T06:07:25.748-05:002015-11-12T06:07:25.748-05:00Personally, I think deon and Kant in particular wo...Personally, I think deon and Kant in particular would be difficult. Most cases I have seen are running justice, which is obvious with any number of criteria like protecting natural rights, preventing tyranny, etc. These are intuitive because the contentions support them. I have also seen human dignity on aff, government legitimacy on both sides of the debate and various incarnations of social contract as criterion on both sides. I have also seen many, many variations on Rawlsian justice where debaters focus on some narrow provisions of his conception of justice and run it as a criterion, although, personally, I think Rawls would have resisted the kind of justice which is a consequence of JN.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-23372049252422466782015-11-11T23:31:46.463-05:002015-11-11T23:31:46.463-05:00what is a good value and value criterion? deontolo...what is a good value and value criterion? deontology would not work right?DJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17616981119550725443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-26696200156263844972015-10-30T14:01:08.806-04:002015-10-30T14:01:08.806-04:00I am not a philosopher but I am a coach and if one...I am not a philosopher but I am a coach and if one of my debaters proposed this framework for the Affirmative I would have concerns. First, there is vagueness in the concept of the General Will. Second util itself has several conceptions (i.e. rule or act based) and makes it possible, perhaps, for Neg to claim under a util framework it may be acceptable to "sacrifice" some for the greater good. Third the majority rule idea is vague in that it is unclear if the majority is confined to the local community (one may presume perhaps, a majority of one's peers?), the state, or the nation. Moreover, tyranny of the majority immediately comes to mind. I would be concerned that better Neg debaters will claim that "majority rule"-based jury nullification increases the potential for minorities to be abused or treated unjustly, first by a tyrannical judiciary and then by a tyrannical jury imposing the so-called general will on minority members of society. Of course it may be you have already anticipated these attacks from Neg and are well-prepared to defend your framework. This is only my opinion based upon the limited info you have provided without knowing your warrants or your skills as a competitor.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-75281100086856066472015-10-30T07:36:35.421-04:002015-10-30T07:36:35.421-04:00Any thoughts? Is this acceptable?
Any thoughts? Is this acceptable? <br />Nathaniel Reidheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720311549756226985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-12833705146275191332015-10-30T07:35:48.178-04:002015-10-30T07:35:48.178-04:00We have a debate coming and I am planning on using...We have a debate coming and I am planning on using Rousseau terms of "Social Contract" via Value supported by "Majority Rule" as the Value Criterion. <br /><br />Value:<br /> I offer the value of “Social Contract” by the terms of Rousseau, the government’s sole obligation is to satisfy the general will of the people, by extent, the government does not always necessarily protect the rights of the individual but rather the only true responsibility is to protect the liberty of the many when it is in the best interest to which society supports, thereby upholding the greatest requisite goodwill of the great many e.g. “Utilitarianism.”<br /><br />Value Criterion:<br /> In support of the value “Social Contract” I offer the value criterion of “Majority Rule” because the government itself is run by the people as a whole. As a democracy, the will of the government is the will of the people, including the decisions of the majority in a court of law, not based solely on the presumed competency of an individual judge but rather adding the criteria of a jury where competency will be most prevalent and as a result, relatively preserving the “Freedom” and “Equality” of the people.<br />Nathaniel Reidheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12720311549756226985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-52349932216579732342015-10-27T11:24:59.553-04:002015-10-27T11:24:59.553-04:00If JN is seen as a kind of rebellion arising from ...If JN is seen as a kind of rebellion arising from the government's failure to uphold the social contract then Locke's formulation should be acceptable. Neg can turn the social contract if it can prove JN is itself a violation of the social contract.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-25263934956307142402015-10-27T11:12:57.507-04:002015-10-27T11:12:57.507-04:00Nullification is defined and discussed here.Nullification is defined and discussed <a href="http://everydaydebate.blogspot.com/2015/10/LD2015-11-jury-nullification-intro.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.James Kellamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09983375909180219240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-64946989959564584832015-10-27T10:51:38.425-04:002015-10-27T10:51:38.425-04:00What is nulification?What is nulification?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2407860233068036900.post-84048427053809863082015-10-27T10:49:04.191-04:002015-10-27T10:49:04.191-04:00I was planning to use a Justice/Social Contract v/...I was planning to use a Justice/Social Contract v/vc pairing, but was wondering which social contract would be the best to use for the affirmative case? I was thinking Locke's, but I'm not sure if he himself would agree with the idea of Jury Nullification. Any tips? <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com